Posts by Laura Reeves
635 – NOHS Regional Events from the Club’s Perspective
NOHS Regional Events from the Club’s Perspective
Ryan Horvath and Sandra Pretari Hickson join host Laura Reeves to discuss the upcoming first ever NOHS Regional Event at their Harvest Moon Classic dog shows Oct. 17-20 this year.
“Since the inception of the owner handled competition, we’ve included it in our shows every year,” Horvath said. “And we’ve also recognized the need to elevate it to a status on par with the rest of the show. So, we’ve offered similar trophies. We have the event taking place right in the main hall with the rest of the show so that you can kind of go pick and choose what you want to watch, who you want to cheer for, you know, and make sure that you can make all your ring times because, you know, it can get a little hairy sometimes.”
“(NOHS Regional) is happening on Saturday,” Pretari Hickson said, “on the same day as the regular dog show, but it is a standalone event. So we’re not offering the traditional owner handled that day.
And we have rings dedicated to just owner handlers. And we actually have brought in judges just for this.”
“It’s challenging being one of the first clubs to put this on,” Horvath added. “Trying to invent it from the ground up. And we are in a new site that we’ve had two years in and we continue to evolve and develop new things that we need to improve each year. So this is one more thing that we have to integrate in and kind of start out without anyone to look at and see how they do it.
“One of the things that we try to pay attention to, and something we’ve definitely done for this regional event, is to have judges that are approved for these groups. And so you’re gonna have judges who, judge them, know the breeds, and many times we’ve had them on our panels doing similar breeds and groups in the past. So, we’re thrilled to be able to provide them with an equal stake.”
634 – Best Advice from Best in Show Judge, Roz Kramer
Best Advice from Best in Show Judge, Roz Kramer
Roz Kramer, Best in Show judge for Westminster Kennel Club last week, joins host Laura Reeves with advice, stories, suggestions and tips for all exhibitors.
On judging Best in Show at Westminster
Kaz Hosaka, winning BIS at WKC with the Miniature Poodle, Sage.
“You know, you’re sequestered and so you don’t really know who you’re getting and they come in the ring one at a time and it was one gorgeous dog after another.
“I mean, all of them showed like a million bucks. They all looked wonderful, fabulous condition. And it gave me goosebumps. It really did. I was so happy and so thrilled.
On her mentors
“I have had three incredible mentors for me Annie (Rogers Clark), Janey and Bob (Forsyth). I had so much respect for the three of them. Annie, she was such a teacher in many ways. I never worked for any of them, but you saw them at shows all the time and they’d give you little hints or little suggestions all the time and or you’d just sit and listen to them and you’d learn.
On how newer exhibitors can succeed
“You should stick around (after showing in the ring), learn your history of your breed, learn who the greats of the breed were, learn your pedigrees, figure out who the best multiple breeders of your breed, and it wouldn’t matter if they’re ones on the west coast and ones in Texas and ones in Maine. Seek those people out, learn the best you can. And then if you get a dog, don’t be afraid to go, not just ask other breeders for help on trimming or showing.
“I’m telling you, you go to most of these handlers, it doesn’t matter who they are, they are more than willing to help. We need the new people in the sport and everybody knows it and I think that what people also need to do is don’t think that you’re better than everybody else, be kind and caring to people because you know something, we all have to ask for help at some point in our lives and don’t be afraid to.
“You know one of the ways that I learned when I was a kid is my mentor on the Scotty’s John Sheehan. He’d trim the show side and then he’d say ‘okay now you trim the other side. Copy that.’
“(There) is the conditioning part. And it was a teaching tool to me that you do this day after day, hour after hour, and don’t stop. And it’s going to pay off.
“It’s artistry, and I think people prefer the quick fix and the easy fix. I think that people should give themselves a challenge, prove what they can accomplish and they might be surprised.”
Kramer’s Etsy shop features home decor and fashion items like this pillow cover.
Visit Kramer’s Etsy shop to see her beautiful breed specific designs on home decor and fashion items.
633 – The New Voice of Westminster Kennel Club
The New Voice of Westminster Kennel Club
Host Laura Reeves is joined by Valerie Nunes-Atkinson, handler, breeder and the new color commentator at Westminster Kennel Club.
“So I think one of the reasons why I’ve been brought in is because of some of the things that you mentioned, being a handler, having lived it and been there. So I’m hoping to bring the insight from that perspective, from the handler’s perspective, the excitement of it, what goes on a little bit behind the scenes, but then also from a breeder perspective, you know, having bred dogs that have done well there and bred dogs for decades.
“Jason has been a breeder and a handler and a judge, but he’s more from the judge’s perspective and the historical importance of the breeds and details of the breeds. And I hope to bring a little bit of the other type of knowledge. And Chris is our fun guy that asks interesting questions.
“You learn how to listen to someone in your ears and still talk… It’s something, I will say it’s something to get used to. So they’re talking in your ear. ear and they’re counting you down. So literally we have about 20 seconds after the announcer gives all the breed details on that particular breed to make a point about something and keep it somewhat interesting.
“Twenty seconds is a long time, but it’s really not a long time. So to be concise and get your message across and be done before he starts going into the next breed. So they’re counting you down as you’re talking and trying to make your point in these 20 seconds and you have to be done by the time they get to one. Otherwise, someone might be screaming in your ear.
“So learning that and learning how to go back and forth between the three of us and not step on each other, so that you’re not talking over the other person.
“There’s a huge learning curve and we’ll see because, you know, it basically scares the, you know, what out of me to be doing this. And I really considered not doing it. But my dad always told me, and this was before he passed, he said, ‘If you’re not doing something that is scary and challenges you and really scares you, you’re not growing.’ So you’ve got to live your life. You’ve got to push yourself and reach for other goals. And so I’m doing it.
“And that’s where I think, you know, through this broadcast and through Jason and Chris, I mean, we hope to, you know, give breed details. We hope to give breed information to the general public. That’ll be interesting that maybe allows them to think about other breeds and hopefully maybe even learn how to find a preservation breeder.
“I think being able to, for my role, step in and maybe tell some little tidbits of stories or experiences that I’ve had that might bring other people in to say, ‘Hey, maybe I could try that or that sounds fun.’ Or maybe they don’t even know about things we’re talking about like the agility. trial that’s gonna be there as well. There’s other sports within AKC that the general public can do wth their dogs, which is very exciting. And I think it’s a way to bring everybody else, the general public into a scene, what else you can do with your dogs?”
632 – Expert Tips for Expanding Puppies’ Minds
Expert Tips for Expanding Puppies’ Minds
Dr. Marty Greer, DVM joins host Laura Reeves for their ongoing conversation about raising puppies. This month they’re talking week four, when the puppies’ minds are exploding with new sensory input.
From Dr. Greer’s “Canine Reproduction and Neonatology”
“When the puppies first open their eyes, first open their ears, we should have gentle lighting, we should have gentle sounds,” Greer said. “We shouldn’t just have this loud TV with Rambo on. So, you know, things like just have the lights starting to come up, their vision isn’t great, their hearing isn’t great, but it went from almost nothing to something and so we want to ease them into that world.”
Four weeks is when many puppies are introduced to solid food. Mothers of wild canids vomit for their puppies as their introduction to solid food. Laura describes making puppy food the “consistency of dog vomit.”
Marty recommends shallow water bowls for puppies to prevent drowning hazards, as well as Lixit bottles for smaller breeds.
100 experiences in 100 days
“I try to do a lot of variation in the enclosure. I have a rabbit hutch that’s got a two story ramp on it so they can go in and out of doors and up and down the ramp. I have all kinds of little beds that have holes and places for them to go. Honestly the best toys are the kids’ toys that I pick up at garage sales. So you pick up, you know, baby walkers and all kinds of toys and they’re brightly colored and they’re hard plastic. They’re not durable enough for the aggressive chewer or adult dog. So you probably don’t want them in with mom if you’ve got a lab that eats everything, but they’re fun. They make interesting noise and you can do variability.
“I think both Sophia Yen and Ian Dunbar, veterinarians that talk a lot about behavior and development, talk about a hundred experiences in a hundred days.
“I have a series of 11 bath mats that are all different sizes, shapes, colors, textures. The mesh ones I put under the puppies when they’re really young because the urine runs through and so they stay dry. When you’re in that transition period between when mom stops cleaning them, that two to four week transition period when they start urinating on their own, they stay dry and it doesn’t soak into a pad directly on their skin so it’s cleaner and neater.
“And those again can go in the washing machine. But I went to Walmart during COVID and they had 11 styles of bath mats. They had some with bristles, they had some that were shiny, some with round holes, some with square holes, some were dark colored, some were light colored. Just this whole variety and again I throw them in my washing machine when they get soiled and then I hang them to dry. And I have two sets so that they can rotate through. And you’ve just given now a puppy 11 different surfaces, so of the 100 experiences you need to do in 100 days, you just did 10 percent of them, with a bath mat.”
631– Eye Emergencies Can Go From 0 to 60 in a Blink
Eye Emergencies Can Go From 0 to 60 in a Blink
Host Laura Reeves is joined by veterinary ophthalmologist Stacey Halse for a deep dive on eye emergencies in our dogs.
Dr. Stacey Halse, veterinary ophthalmologist, with one of her Dobermans.
“Eyes are a very unique structure when it comes to every other organ, well, most other organs in the (dog’s) body,” Halse said. “They have what you call the fancy word for is a blood aqueous barrier. It kind of protects the inside of the eye from the rest of the immune system. The eye itself is called an immunoprivileged site. And so when things go wrong and the regular immune system kind of gets into the eye, it can go very wrong very quickly.
“And so emergencies can go from, oh, it’s just a little scratch, just… to suddenly you’re like, “Oh, now the eyeball’s melting out of the face.” And so that’s always very scary, both for an owner and a dog.”
Eye Infections in Newborns
“One of the biggest things that you can do is get that eyelid open even though the eyes are only supposed to open at about two weeks old, you don’t want that material to stay in there. And so if it’s not draining yet, warm compressing and just gently massaging those eyes open to get that material draining because if it stays in there, it’s going to ruin the eye. It’s going to cause scar tissue that can affect the puppy for the rest of its life. And I haven’t seen it a ton, but in the worst case. case scenarios, usually the shelter dogs that are kind of not brought in to care, but they can lose their eye. And so outside of medications, just getting that eye open is really the most important part.”
Steroid Cautions
Generally, any ulceration or scratch of the eye’s surface should NOT be treated with steroids.
“If there’s an ulcer there and you don’t know because you don’t have the staining and all this stuff, you just wanna be cautious and kind of just do the topical antibiotics. In general, something like neopolybac, which a lot of people have, or a topical drop, most often if I’m prescribing it, I’ll use Tobromycin because you only need something that’s superficial. But I feel like a lot of the time people have neopolybac in the dog world.
“You just have to make sure there’s no steroid in it. So the two steroids that can be a neopolybac is hydrocortisone or dexamethasone. Dexamethasone probably the most common, but hydrocortisone is the one that’s most commonly missed because people are just looking for dexamethasone on the thing. And one little trick that I teach students as well as owners is that if there’s a pink strip on the box, it’s a steroid. Tan is antibiotic, pink is steroid.
Corneal Ulcers
“The cornea is only about 0.8 millimeters thick, so it’s super, super thin. And so an infection anywhere else, not a huge deal. An infection on the surface of the eye can be very bad very quickly. You can lose the eye within 24 hours. I’ve had one in the hospital that I was medicating aggressively and then we still lost the battle. And it like developed an ulcer in the hospital. This was like during my residency and we started treating right away and we still lost it.
“I don’t wanna freak everyone out but that’s the worst case scenario. – If there’s a little bit of squinting, and if you ever see a divot on your dog’s eye, just take it in.”
630 — Westminster Kennel Club Fashionista Advice
Westminster Kennel Club Fashionista Advice
Host Laura Reeves is joined by Veronica Wolfe of Best In Show Clothes, talking about that *perfect* WKC outfit, hair, nails, makeup and more.
“So, you know Westminster, it is the premier dog sport event of the year,” Wolfe noted. “It is the second oldest sporting event in the nation only behind the Kentucky Derby and then only by two years. It’s been going on since 1877. So you have to give some respect to the event. Very prestigious, limited number of dogs, the juniors invitation only.
“There’s a few factors you need to consider. One is the event, of course. You know, and how do you get ready and how do you dress for Westminster? My first thought would be the way you get ready and appropriate for really any dog show. You’re representing your breed. If you have a kennel, you’re representing your kennel. If you’re a handler, you’re representing your client’s dogs. If you’re an assistant, you’re representing your handler,
“So everybody should look professional, okay? So you need to have professional clothing and you need to have all the support factors that we talked about in our first podcast. You’re going to be on national television by all the possibilities. If you’re not on national television, then I’m sure your breed’s going to be on YouTube, right? Yes. So have those good shoes on. Have the good support wear on. Don’t skip the pantyhose on this one, that kind of thing.
“But you also need to consider the weather. You need to consider the location. Everything’s not indoors anymore. So let’s run down a couple of those things.
“The temperatures in May and New York are gonna be 71 high day, 54 low. That’s average. So if you’ve got an eight a.m. ring time and now they’re outdoors, right? You need to consider that. You need to dress appropriately for that eight a.m. ring time. If you’ve got to change later on because woohoo, you made it to groups, then you can plan for that. But consider the weather.
“It can be humid and it can be hot in May also so you’ll want to consider that when you’re debating between the Tahari suit versus the wool blend St. John. It can also be wet. The average rainfall in that area in May is 3.9 inches to give you an idea. In eastern Washington, that’s like a quarter of our rainfall for the year. So prepare for that. Bring a raincoat. You don’t want to, you know, have that beautiful suit or a silk blend suit, get water on it. So the weather you need to consider, the time of day, once the schedule comes out, you need to consider for what you’re wearing.
“And then you’ve got groups and the finals for juniors, moves indoors. I would say be mindful that that indoor carpet is green. You might want to consider what you’re wearing with that. I’d be careful of wearing a similar green. – One giant green blob. With that color, a lot of people love to wear purple to Westminster ’cause Westminster’s purple and gold. But then a lot of people are wearing purple. So you need to be aware of that.
“I think blue and green always go really well together. Depending on your dog if you’re of the mindset that you prefer to really stay in the background, grays, blacks and tans can go nicely with that color carpet. Certain red tones if you do the blue based reds and not the orange based reds, I think the blue based reds almost leaning towards burgundy would be okay with that.
“You want to present a very professional image without distracting from the dog and that the dog should be the center of attention. If you love bling and you want to wear it great. There is a love of bling in the dog show world and I sell a lot of bling online and in my booth. If you’re not careful, I think it can be distracting.
“And juniors, can I address you a minute? Because I have a junior. You know, you or your parents do not need to go out and buy a six hundred to a thousand dollar suit for this show There are gorgeous Taharai, Le Suit, Casper. All those. You can get beautiful suits that accentuate your dog that aren’t St. John and if you just have to have a St. John, make sure that it’s age appropriate and it doesn’t look like a St. John that should be on somebody maybe more my age.
“You want to look your age. If you’re young, you want to look young, professional, neat, clean, your hair back out of your face. Yeah, it’s prestigious, but you don’t have to wear or own or buy a St. John. Of course, I’d love to sell you one, but you know, it’s not necessary.”
629 – Neonates Deep Dive: Caring for the Dam and Hypocalcemia
Neonates Deep Dive: Caring for the Dam and Hypocalcemia
Dr. Marty Greer, DVM joins host Laura Reeves for a continuation of their ongoing conversation about neonates. The discussion today includes hypocalcemia and eclampsia, how much calcium to supplement and when.
“For some bitches, you need to continue (calcium supplementation) until the puppies are weaned,” Greer said. “It depends on the size of the bitch and the size of the litter. The smaller the bitch and the bigger the litter, the more you need calcium. It tends to be… in small breed bitches that develop hypocalcemia, eclampsia, that that tends to be an issue.
“We don’t see it in Labs, Goldens, Rottweilers, you know, the big dogs, but in the little dogs, and you know, I mean little dogs usually under 10 or 15 pounds, dachshunds, terriers, some of those small breeds, we can see hypocalcemia. In those cases the bitch will start to run a low grade fever. The first symptoms are going to be that she starts walking kind of goose-stepping like real stiffly, associated with the calcium becoming too low and then her muscles developing this tetany.
“When the puppies are growing at about that two to three week time period, when the puppies are really growing fast, is when the demands of the calcium become the greatest on those small breed bitches and they just don’t have the ability to mobilize enough calcium from their bones, their vitamin D levels are trying, but they just don’t have the ability to mobilize calcium quickly enough.
“And this is why you don’t want to give calcium prior to the time that the bitch goes into labor and has her puppies. If you give it during the entire pregnancy, then you tell her parathyroid gland, “You know what, you can just take a vacation. “You don’t have to worry about this, just hang out.” And then their calcium doesn’t mobilize adequately.
“So you want them on a normal amount of calcium in their regular dog food, and then once they whelp, then that’s when you can start adding the additional calcium in gel form, in tablet form, in powder form to the diet along with the puppy food to make sure she gets adequate amounts of calcium.
“The powder, the gel, those are all going to be fine and safe because the GI tract is going to only absorb and the body’s only going to take in so much. So you’re okay to be pretty aggressive. Now there’s definitely some things that you have to be concerned about if you’re giving (calcium) by injection. But if you’re giving oral in the powder or the tablet form, you know the petcal or the revival or the whatever product you want to use, those are all absolutely fine to give. You have to really screw up to give too much. But it does make a big difference and you basically titrate it until you see the effect that you’re looking for.
Greer touches on a variety of different topics in this wide-ranging conversation, so check out the entire podcast here.
628 – Show Safe Launches for the Dog Sport Community
Show Safe Launches for the Dog Sport Community
Host Laura Reeves is joined by Mary Dukes, Lindsay Fetters and Carissa Shimpeno to discuss their new grassroots launch of Show Safe. The organization encourages all exhibitors to take the Safe Sport program and offers a lapel pin to those who complete it.
“I knew about Safe Sport through my daughter, who’s a professional horse trainer,” Dukes said. “And safe sport is a congressionally mandated program for all Olympic sports that came in after the multitude of abuses in gymnastics, swimming, diving, I could go on. So anyway, I was familiar with it because my daughter shows horses and since equestrian events are an Olympic sport, she has to take safe sport and a re -up every year. I got it in for the registered handlers program and then I always had wanted to expand it. I advocated to expand it to at the very least junior judges, but while I was an employed by the AKC I was never able to get that done.
“Everybody has a story. Everybody has a story to varying degrees. I feel like mine is relatively minor in the big scheme of things, but everybody has a story of being inappropriately touched, inappropriately propositioned, all that.”
“Historically when something happens people react and everybody wants to do something,” Fetters said. “But I feel like a lot of people put it off on somebody else. ‘The government needs to do this, the AKC needs to do this’… It’s like we’re upset about something, but we’re saying it needs to be somebody else’s mission.
“I sort of was reflecting on what can we do, what can I do, what can you do, what can we do as a fancy because I think if anybody can be united over something it’s united over protecting our children.
“I don’t know a single person who would disagree with the mission of let’s do better for our next generation but it’s hard to invoke change. It’s hard to start a movement, it’s hard to unite people as just one solo person, especially in our sport.
“My idea was basically, let’s do a grassroots movement. Let’s control what we can control. And let’s let people know that this training and this option is out there. And instead of mandating or instead of controlling somebody or demanding somebody do it, because I think that that immediately puts somebody on edge, like let’s say, ‘okay, look, this options out here, let’s pursue it. And if you do, we want to let other people know we want to let juniors know. We want to let other people in our sport know that we’ve had this training and we’re here to be a listening ear and we’re here to provide support.”
“I guess I would have to say my biggest learning experience in what works and what doesn’t work started last year,” said Shimpeno. “When we had a handler who had been to prison for raping his minor assistant and he was returning to the world of dogs. In my mind I thought well what a beautiful way to show the young people of our sport that we actually have their back. Why don’t we try and make some kind of policy within AKC that says, you know, if you’ve been convicted of X, Y and Z, that we can’t stop you from coming to the dog shows, we can’t stop you from existing and we can’t make you a better person. But we can send a message to our little people and men and women around the sport in general just saying this is not what we’re about. We’re going to take a stand and we’re going to draw a line in the sand.
“A year ago, Mary actually said, you know, why don’t we stop asking AKC to do this? And we do something ourselves. And my response in that moment was like, ‘because that’s not right.’ We have to be the better people, like we have to make them do what’s right. That mindset got me exactly nowhere at all.
“We have this large portion of people out there that are just stuck in the injustice of it. And I want them to understand that we get that and we don’t want to minimize the pain, the trauma or anything they’ve been through. But our group of people has learned through experience that we need everybody to receive this message.
“And in order for that to happen, we have to be way more organized. and focused. We are not a vigilante team. This has nothing to do with the perpetrators themselves. It’s not even about necessarily protecting. It’s about empowering, right, like knowledge through education.”
627 – Tools to Help Protect Vulnerable Victims
Tools to Help Protect Vulnerable Victims
Pam Bruce, judging in Orlando.
Host Laura Reeves is joined by Pam Bruce, a 32-year veteran of the Toronto Police Department where she was a sex crimes investigator. Pam was also Canada’s first acknowledged expert in this field.
With recent arrests that have dramatically impacted the purebred dog world, everybody’s asking what the American Kennel Club is doing. Pam is the individual who has trained all of our AKC reps, staff and board members already.
Her presentation from which today’s podcast is drawn will be available to everyone in Canine College starting this month. Today’s episode is an excerpt of this critically important presentation. Watch the full conversation HERE.
“We can all be empowered by knowledge,” Reeves said, “and the knowledge that Pam has to share is what is going to make us all more able to handle the situations that we’ve been handed.”
“Sex assault itself (is) intimate sexual contact with a person without their consent,” Bruce said. “And a young person does not have the capability of offering consent, the same as somebody that’s vulnerable. (It may be) accompanied by force or even threat of force …
“It’s not for sexual gratification of an offender. It’s all about power and control. But the big problem for us in our sport is it’s living in the gray areas, and that comes from non-reporting. The first time an offender was caught is not the first time they offended. And when you speak to the experts about this, they say on the low end, the average of sex assaults that have been committed before an offender has been even on their radar is at least seven.
“So let me just drill down a bit with vulnerable victims. A vulnerable person can be identified as someone who belongs to a group within our society, so think of dog shows, that is either oppressed or more susceptible to harm.
“Anyone under the age of 18 years, or an older (person) who has an impairment due to physical, mental, or emotional function. One who is unlikely, unable, or incapable to report grooming, sexual abuse, physical abuse, or neglect situations.
“Now let it not be lost on anyone that the offender is the one that chooses the victim. And it’s often for that exact reason that that person has a lack of capability and if they do have capability or someone to assist with that reporting, will they be believed? We must report on their behalf or assist them to do so.
“The bigger issue for us and for society is what about the undetected offenders? Due to non -reporting, we don’t know what we don’t know. Child victims know their offender 94 percent of the time.
“These people are our village, but there are victims in our village and offenders in our village and we know them, we love them. We believe we know their full being, but does anyone ever really know anyone?
“’Grooming behaviors’ is the idea of a perpetrator forming relationships with children. If you see an adult and they’re really not friendly with a set of parents, but they’re spending a lot of time around their children, I periscope up right away. I want to know why or if it’s somebody vulnerable, someone disabled. If they’re helping them, that’s wonderful. But there is a line that should not be crossed, which is the next point, testing boundaries. Perpetrators will try to test boundaries on your child’s comfort level.”
626 – Kelly Lyn Marquis Shares Her Insights from the Masters
Kelly Lyn Marquis Shares Her Insights from the Masters
Kelly Lyn Marquis in the ring.
Host Laura Reeves is joined by Kelly Lyn Marquis to discuss the stories in Marquis’ new book Behind the Scenes of Best in Show: Intimate Moments with the Masters.
“When I started writing (the book),” Marquis said, “I was seeing some dissension, sometimes some frustration where I would hear people saying things about handlers doing all the winning and you know I really really wanted to show all of the work that goes into those wins.
“And even even for many of us that you see in the book, for so many of the masters, it’s not about the wins. Actually, not one of them, not one of them, mentioned about the win being something that matters to them. It’s the behind the scenes things that matter to them whether it’s making their clients happy or the connection that they have with that dog. And that was a motivation.
In her conversation with Michael Scott, Marquis admits struggling to understand his thinking.
“…(T)o Michael, it is his job to handle the dog to the (best of his) ability and to bring that dog to the right judges. And he knows his judges well. He knows what they like, as did Gwen (DeMilta). (B)ut Michael’s job was to handle. Well, there wasn’t the messiness that I would see in Gwen, and that also was active in myself as well.
“So when I interviewed Michael and Michael said, ‘My job is to handle the dog and to bring it to the right judges. Period.’ And he even went on to say that, ‘Look, it’s a game.’ And that really triggered me ’cause I thought, ‘No, this is serious business!’ And it isn’t that Michael doesn’t take it seriously, but he’s very clear on what his role is as a handler.
“That was one of the things that really struck me interviewing Michael, was if Michael had been my mentor and if I operated and navigated the dog show world with Michael’s mindset, how might my… my life be different? So that is one of the values that I think a reader can get from reading this book where when you see where someone’s priorities are and how that shapes how they navigate the world…
“When it comes to the passion and the emotional attachment, I always give credit to the owner handlers and let them know that when it comes to my own dog, I have to have another handler show it because it gets messy.
“One of the things that I love about handlers that I think is a lesson for, well, even for ourselves to bring out into the world, but we’re masters of our emotion. It’s like you, okay, we look at this, what do I need to be? How do I need to show up for this dog?
“And we’re very clear about that. We have a very clear role and we’re able to be in integrity and we’re also able to look at that dog and go, okay, what’s going on with you? You and I, we need to… make this work. We don’t have the luxury to have an emotional moment,
“Which also gets me thinking about another motivation for my book. I wanted to show our humanity because when we’re at a dog show, we need to be in business mode. We’re not showing our… our feelings.
“You know, Michelle Scott talks about how difficult it can be for her at times, managing her expectations and how she knows she wants to make people happy. And it can be so disappointing when you’re not able to make that person happy. But we can’t show that we have to show up and we have to be professionals. But it doesn’t mean that we don’t feel things. It just means that we’re in business mode, we can’t be getting caught up in those places, but we do have feelings just like everyone else.
“Another motivating factor for me is this is our community. I’m looking around it it’s scary it looks like a dying community. I believe that this is an underlying theme in my book as well is that we are people. There are people at the ends of those leads and we need to be taking care of ourselves and our community better. One of the things that I’ve learned. Being a mom is my number one priority. And if my work is getting me so strung out that when my daughter comes home from school I can’t hold space for that because I’m too agitated myself, then I’m not able to be the mom that I want to be. And so even as handlers, when we show up at our job, are we making good choices for ourselves so that we can serve not only ourselves but more people?”